I know this question was asked in one of the previous threads, but wanted to state the answer in a new thread so it would be easier to refer to.
Both Barnett and Subtyl are considered transfers, not prospects. Therefore there is no new profile created, and no inclusion on the commitment list.
To have a profile created and listed as a commitment, they would have had to play for a junior college program, and then be evaluated based on the merits of their play and potential coming out of that program.
In other words, if a prospect is to be listed on two different commitment lists in different years, he would have had to play both at the high school and the junior college level, and not merely attending junior college just to complete an AA degree and not playing even one down for that team.
This has been the long-standing policy of Rivals for 15 years concerning their database history of not including the thousands of transfers during that time on commit lists, and not ranking them. Russell Wilson, for example, was never on a Wisconsin commit list, because he transferred there from NC State.
Now, we are quite aware that other recruiting services are slapping old rankings on new profiles. In our opinion, we think that is a very flawed policy and thus not one that will be exercised here.
Of course, not having Barnett and Subtyl included in the commit list doesn't imply in any shape or form that the added value they will bring to ASU is minimal. Again, it's just keeping consistent with the Rivals policy on transfers.
On a somewhat related note, I will inquire about including DJ Davidson on the list since he wasn't a transfer but rather a prospect who enrolled one year later.
Hope this post helps clarifies the reasoning and I'm happy to answer any questions on this thread about this topic.
Both Barnett and Subtyl are considered transfers, not prospects. Therefore there is no new profile created, and no inclusion on the commitment list.
To have a profile created and listed as a commitment, they would have had to play for a junior college program, and then be evaluated based on the merits of their play and potential coming out of that program.
In other words, if a prospect is to be listed on two different commitment lists in different years, he would have had to play both at the high school and the junior college level, and not merely attending junior college just to complete an AA degree and not playing even one down for that team.
This has been the long-standing policy of Rivals for 15 years concerning their database history of not including the thousands of transfers during that time on commit lists, and not ranking them. Russell Wilson, for example, was never on a Wisconsin commit list, because he transferred there from NC State.
Now, we are quite aware that other recruiting services are slapping old rankings on new profiles. In our opinion, we think that is a very flawed policy and thus not one that will be exercised here.
Of course, not having Barnett and Subtyl included in the commit list doesn't imply in any shape or form that the added value they will bring to ASU is minimal. Again, it's just keeping consistent with the Rivals policy on transfers.
On a somewhat related note, I will inquire about including DJ Davidson on the list since he wasn't a transfer but rather a prospect who enrolled one year later.
Hope this post helps clarifies the reasoning and I'm happy to answer any questions on this thread about this topic.
