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Arizona State taking its time with additional 2017, future 2018 local recruits

As of today, Arizona State has yet to offer a 2018 local recruit, but they're building relationships with several. In the coming months (possibly weeks) we should see Arizona State expand beyond their current local targets for 2017, as well as adding offers for the 2018 class. Let's take a comprehensive look at where they're at right now, which locals they're pursuing, and which locals they could be pursuing in the near future.

2017: On the board

QB Ryan Kelley

Ryan Kelley may be playing in his final varsity contest on Friday, and has put together an impressive high school career. This year, despite a dip in his team's overall success, Kelley made improvements to his downfield accuracy, and continues to be a judicious runner that can make plays with his legs just as well as his arm. While he cut down on turnovers this season, he has had a bit of an issue with fumbling, which can be attributed to both issues on his offensive line, and his propensity to try and extend plays.

WR Curtis Hodges

With Mata'ava Ta'ase graduated, I had thought Hodges would make the transition to Mountain View's primary WR. Instead, he's continued to be a secondary option and downfield target, as well as a bailout option when they need someone to go up and get a deep ball (like here, and here). It helps to be 6-7. He moves well for his size, and is as excited about being a Sun Devil as any recruit they'll have in this class, having attended every home game.

TE Jared Poplawski
OL Corey Stephens
LB Kyle Soelle

The Saguaro trio have been tearing through the competition at the 4A level this year, and are a shoe in for a state championship. Jared Poplawski is noticeably bigger and stronger, and his play on the defensive line has been an interesting surprise that has me wondering if ASU might not explore more uses for him besides the tight end role, especially in Chip Lindsey's TE-light offense. Corey Stephens has reshaped his body, and is the true leader of the offensive unit. Every player I talked to said they're a much better team with him on the field (he missed a month with an MCL injury). Kyle Soelle has not looked as strong as his fellow Sun Devil commits this year. Part of that is he's being used as a 3-4 rush end on both sides of the ball. He's better against the run than I thought he'd be at this point, and from purely a high school football stat-stuffing standpoint, he'd probably be better suited to play as an inside linebacker- but obviously that's not his role at the next level, and Saguaro already has a couple of those in Brandt Casey and Carson Nugent. What has looked promising is Soelle's speed. Two of his five sacks came against a team that tries to get the ball out in less than 3 seconds (Higley).

2017: High Priority Targets

OT Austin Jackson

Jackson's high school career may be over. Despite a vast improvement, North Canyon will not make the playoffs, and Jackson is currently out with an ankle injury. He remains ASU's #1 priority in this recruiting class, and the Sun Devils are in the mix, along with USC, Michigan, and potentially Texas A&M. I've been open about the fact that Austin Jackson's play on the field last season did not impress me (relative to his ranking). To me, he's improved as much as anyone in the state from his junior to his senior season- and considering he's been pegged as the state's top recruit for two years now, it's scary to think what his ceiling could be.

ATH Isaiah Pola-Mao

To me this is the best skill-position prospect in the state, and the most under-recruited 2017 player in the country. He's been on several unofficials/game visits to ASU, and has a strong interest in staying close to home. Washington is probably the only team that could pry him away from the valley and his younger brother Matthew. USC has also made up for getting in on his recruitment later than they should have.

ATH Tyler Johnson

Johnson has missed most of this season with neck, wrist and hamstring issues. He's been to four total ASU games over the last two years, and has really started to warm up to the idea of staying home (as long as he can play as a freshman). He really likes Chase Lucas and Bryce Perkins, and if he applies himself he could be one of the best players to come out of Arizona, regardless of where he plays on the field (ASU likes him on defense).

S KJ Jarrell

My favorite 'hitter' from the 2017 class, Jarrell's improved athleticism and field awareness make him worthy of a 4-star ranking that I thought was granted to him a tad prematurely by Rivals. ASU has done a good job selling the program to Jarrell and his family, but his heart may be in California. We'll see. Jarrell has already taken an official to USC, and an unofficial to UCLA in the spring.

DE My-King Johnson

All My-King Johnson needed to become an elite defensive pass rusher was more strength. He's taken getting bigger very seriously, and he's really starting to look the part of a dangerous FBS prospect. His official visit to Texas A&M is the key to everything right now, and that will be in the next few weeks. I'd put ASU on the outside looking in at this point (Oregon, USC, A&M leading), though he has been around the program quite a bit.

DE Odua Isibor

Isibor came into the season still learning his position, and is leaving the season as an absolute monster. He's the leading tackler among defensive linemen in the state, and I've heard from players on multiple teams that he's the best payer they've faced this year, including a couple of players at Saguaro. My theory on Isibor is that, being a basketball guy, he's more prone to leave the state than some. He was at the UCLA game on an unofficial visit, but I think he has his eye on trying to qualify at Stanford at the moment. He has also claimed to be planning an Illinois visit, which is the first time the Illini's Arizona-heavy recruiting strategy will have paid off in any way.

2017 Commits (Still in Play)

If we've learned anything from the full court press on Byron Murphy up until the fax was sent last year, or Chip Lindsey going after a committed Ryan Kelley this year, we know that ASU doesn't give up on local prospects it wants to bring into the fold. Here's who I see them continuing to pursue:

K Brandon Ruiz

It would be absurd to think that Arizona State wouldn't capitalize on one of the best careers a kicker has ever had to entice Alabama commit Brandon Ruiz to take over that legacy.

Note: ASU could also look to land Cristian Zendejas (Perry) or Jeff McGuire (Pinnacle) as either a scholarship or walk-on kicking option.

DE Jalen Harris

The longshot of all longshots due to his father's legacy at Arizona, Harris has still been to ASU's campus several times.

2017 Commits (that they should come in on)

Every year there seems to be a glaringly obvious miss by the recruiting staff who commits early to a less-heralded program. Two years ago it was Isaiah Oliver at Brophy. Last year it was Hamilcar Rashed Jr at Chandler. This year it's another pair of Wolves that I believe are worth consideration.

RB TJ Green

The only reason the entire Pac-12 isn't in on Green, who has 37 touchdowns on 256 varsity touches, is because he was a late bloomer. I'm not sure if anything could pry Green away from the tight-knit Chandler-to-Corvallis community, but it would be a mistake not to try. Same goes for his teammate, WR Johnny Johnson III, who is currently pledged to UNLV.

Going Deep (Like everyone else does) on ASU's Pass Defense

I jumped into the numbers on ASU's pass defense this morning to get an idea of whether ASU is catching some good quarterbacks at the right time, or making quarterbacks look good. The answers probably won't surprise you.

Since the start of Pac-12 play in 2015 the Sun Devils have played 18 games. Over that span they've given up an average of 399 yards passing on 27 completions, to go along with three passing TDs per game.

To put that number in context, only four FBS QBs average more than 340 passing yards per game this season. ASU has played three of them (Mahomes, Webb, Falk). Mahomes is the only QB passing for more than 400 yards per game in 2016. Last year Luke Falk was the NCAA's leader at 380 yards per game.

This is a historically poor pass defense that has had the disadvantage of facing several pro prospects and college greats during its time of duress.

Jared Goff (542), Skyler Howard (532), Justin Herbert (489), Davis Webb (478), Jake Browning (405), Josh Rosen (400 in 3 quarters in 2016) and Brandon Dawkins (305 splitting time with Randall in 2015) can all currently claim that their highest yardage total came against the Sun Devils- and that's just in the last 18 games. Luke Falk went over 600 yards vs ASU as a freshman in 2013. In Falk's two games against ASU over the last season and a half, he's 78/108 for 895 yards and 8 TDs.

Patrick Mahomes (540), Shawn Liufau (389 in 2015) and Case Cookus (369) all have had some of their best performances to date against ASU as well.

There were a couple, however, that stood out to me as the best examples of just how rough it's been for ASU's secondary lately. First is the Sun Devils loss to Utah in 2015, where Travis Wilson went 26/36 for 297 yards and 2 TDs. Wilson's average over 12 games as a senior was 16/26 for 174 yards.

Another was Cody Kessler's 375 yards on 19/33 passing against ASU in 2015. Kessler threw for 300+ yards 11 times in his USC career, but against ASU he did it on 19 completions- tied for the least amongst all his 300+ yard efforts. He also managed that total in just over 3 quarters. In Kessler's 4th quarter in that win over ASU he was 2/2 or 34 yards. It was his 2nd best statistical performance against a Power 5 school during his career at USC.

Even performances that seem to have been above average over the last 18 games creat cause for concern when dissected further. Yes, ASU intercepted Jake Browning 3 times last year in a home win, but his 405 yards is a far departure from the 214 passing yards per game he's averaged in his other 12 starts against Pac-12 opponents.

The lowest yardage total they've allowed came against UTSA and Dalton Sturm, but Sturm still managed to throw 3 TDs without an interception in a game that the Roadrunners nearly won.

It can be argued that ASU's best performance as a secondary came against Oregon in a game where they surrendered 61 points in 3 overtimes. Vernon Adams' 23/40 for 315 yards and 4 TDs was actually a fairly standard performance, and if you consider that some of his passing yardage should have been disallowed, it's not a performance you can really hang your head about- especially comparatively.

Arizona State also did a good job of rattling Josh Rosen as a true freshman, holding him to 280 yards and 2 TDs on 22/40 passing. Now that Justin Herbert, Oregon's 4th most heralded QB recruit of the 2016 class threw for nearly 500 yards in just over 3 quarters, it really makes ASU's 2015 performance against the #1 pocket passer of the 2015 class look good.

Another concern is that over the last 18 games, Arizona State is allowing nearly 15 yards per completion. There are 36 wide receivers in the FBS so far this year that average 15 yards or more per reception on at least 4 catches per game. An average of one players on every fourth team is accomplishing this feat.

Meanwhile, ASU gives up 27 completions per game at 14.78 yards per reception.

Now, these are just numbers. Do I believe they reflect an issue with secondary recruiting in conjunction with irregularly superior competition? Yes, but only to an extent. It doesn't explain why Jake Browning, Travis Wilson and Justin Herbert's statistical spikes, and it doesn't explain why teams with poorer recruiting results than ASU have had better results in their secondary.

Colorado is leading the Pac-12 in passing defense by giving up 179 yards per game and under 11 yards per completion. And they're doing it with six primary defensive backs who weren't exactly pressworthy when they committed.

Chidobie Awuzie and Tedric Thompson were 3-stars in the 2013 class who had 6 combined Power 5 offers.

Akhello Witherspoon (3 stars) and Afolabi Laguda (2 stars) were JuCo additions in 2014 and 2015 and had 5 combined power 5 offers.

Ryan Moeller was a walk-on in 2013, and Isaiah Oliver's only power-5 offer was Colorado.

You can't credibly believe on talent alone that this Colorado group could have similar results at ASU- therefore, it comes down to player development and schemes. I mean, you could double what Colorado allows and that would be a drastic improvement for ASU.

Is there a specific coach that deserves the blame? Is it all related to blitzing? All of that is above my ability as a recruiting analyst and a stats junkie. I figured I'd lay all this out and get your thoughts.

Max Browne

Joey Kauffman of the OC Register has reported that USC quarterback Max Browne has signed paperwork that would allow him to contact other teams about the possibility of transferring. He has not announced his intentions to transfer as of yet, despite losing out the starting job to Sam Darnold earlier this season.

Obviously don't think ASU would have interest, but Browne's transfer would impact the QB depth in the conference.
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Austin Faoliu (Arizona Commit)

Arizona State has jumped in on the recruitment of Arizona commit Austin Faoliu.

As we've mentioned quite a few times before, ASU seems to be playing the 'wait and see' game when it comes to 2017 recruiting, and this makes me think that ASU has moved on from Greg Rogers, who never made it out here on his official visit (but still might). I think Rogers is down to Colorado or UCLA.

Then again, it could also be because of Failou's senior film.

ASU is Faoliu's third power 5 offer. He committed a month ago, two days after getting his Arizona offer.

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Monday Morning QB

So what are the UDub Huskies doing right vs what ASU, AU and UCLA doing wrong..??

Chris Petersen has assembled a championship team without having but a few seniors or many other players, for that matter, from Sark's previous recruiting classes...

Ground zero for Petersen was his first recruiting class in 2014 and he has built this team from there and without JC players, either...

His recruiting team rankings from Rivals was #37 in 2014 with an average player rating of 2.78, #31 in 2015 with an average rating of 2.80 and #37 in 2016 with an average rating of 3.11...

Both UCLA and ASU had much higher ranked classes and average player ratings, by a fairly sizeable margin, while AU, using RR's "OKG" methodology, was a complete bust for the most part...

Petersen took a ton of freshmen and threw them to the wolves, mixed to a degree, initially with some of Sark's recruits in 2014 and the Huskies won 8 games and, in 2015, while adding more true freshmen to the mix, including QB Jake Browning and RB Myles Gaskin, the Huskies won 7 games...

Obviously, you have to factor in key injuries to both the Bruins and Sun Devils this season but it is still pretty interesting, to me at least, what Petersen has done at Wash using "his kind of players" that he emphasizes all of the time like he did at Boise St...

That's his model and he builds his program and team culture around it...

Obviously, he and his staff know what they want and are very good talent evaluators...

Meanwhile, at ASU we know that Todd and his staff have used a lot of JC players (that have a short shelve life) to bolster areas of need and have not done a particularly good job of evaluating a lot of HS players, esp on the defensive side of things...

There has been a lot of attrition this year but I'm still wondering about Todd's recruiting model vs a program like what the Huskies are doing under Petersen, keeping in mind that if they lost their top QBs what their record might be these days...

However, I don't think there is any doubt that their defense is light years ahead of the Devils defense in both talent and scheming and probably coaching as well...

It's been a wacky year in the PAC and hard to draw many valid conclusions, given all the key injuries, but Petersen is obviously onto something good at Wash in terms of his recruiting standards and player development...

Thoughts..??

Go Devils!!!

Tuesday Practice Report 11-1

ATTIRE: Helmets and shorts (bye week)
LOCATION: Kajikawa Practice Fields
MEDIA AVAILABILITY: ~15 minutes

EN VERDE (no contact): DB James Johnson

THE WALKING (OR LIMPING) WOUNDED: QB Manny Wilkins (right ankle getting taped), LB Salamo Fiso (right knee), LB Christian Sam (foot), DB Das Tautalatasi, DT JoJo Wicker, DL Edmond Boateng, WR Cam Smith, OL Sam Jones (foot), OL Stephon McCray (foot/ankle in a boot), WR John Humphreys, OL Tyson Rising

Other notes: QB Bryce Perkins was at practice and was not wearing a neck brace, but he wasn't dressed to play.

Personnel notes: Jason Lewis was working with the pass-rushers, Kyle Williams with the receivers. Also random, of anyone in shorts, Marcus Ball's were the shortest by a far margin. Tashon Smallwood was enjoying a chocolate milk on the drive over from the facility to the practice fields.

PURSUIT

ASU showed a drill had not previously seen in practice before called "pursuit," which consisted of a swarm of defensive players going together towards the football, with each eventually scooping a ball up and scoring.

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TACKLING

ASU again worked on tackling. With no pads on, Shawn Slocum wanted his players to focus on the contact point.

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OFFENSE

On the far side of the far field, the offenses went up against air. I did not catch all of the first, second and third teams, but I managed to see who was at QB for each.

First-team: Dillon Sterling-Cole
Second-team: Jack Smith
Third-team: Manny Wilkins

Wilkins moved as well I've seen him in weeks, in my opinion.

FIRST SONG IN THE CAR TODAY:

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As always, let me know of any questions, comments or concerns.

Bye Week Practice Schedule

Just wanted to give everyone a heads up on the modified schedule for the next week and half due to the bye week and a Thursday game versus Utah on November 10th.

There will be no Todd Graham press conference today because of the bye week, but there will be one a week from today on November 7th. Thus, no press conference article today.

We will have the regular Tuesday and Wednesday practice reports with post-practice videos and articles.

There is no practice or media availability on Thursday.

Next week there will be practice reports from the Sunday and Monday (November 6-7) practices, and on Tuesday November 8th there will only be post-practice video.

Hope this clarifies the unusual schedule for the next week and half.

Sunday Walkabout

Mornin Mates...

Today's Topic...Unfathomable

These things are unfathomable when talking about our Sun Devils today...

That our defense, when healthy, is lousy and when it is as depleted as it is now, it is downright putrid...

That we are having to play our fourth string QB, a true freshman, who is playing like a true freshman...

That our overall team attrition due to injuries needs more than a MASH unit to return to duty...

That injuries will mount when everyone is wearing a bag over their head as the season continues to head south...

That these things are happening as we face some opponents like Oregon that are very beatable these days but we're so bad we can't even do that...

That Graham and his staff are pulling down millions of dollars in salary for us to have to watch while our football team sinks...

To Todd's credit, the team doesn't give up but it is still a disaster to watch in this his fifth year on the job at ASU...

It is also unfathomable that in year five at ASU, our defense and especially our secondary, doesn't have enough PAC quality players to compete in the upper half of any conference, much less the PAC...

I mean what has he been doing over the past four to five years in recruiting..??

And, I don't see many DL and/or secondary recruits committed to us yet, either...

We also need some big time RBs for depth and other players that can contribute right away, to climb above awful back to lousy as a team...

I'm being a little melodramatic but it is not fun watching the Sun Devils get beat the way they are getting beat these days and things are not going to get better anytime soon that I can see...

I guess we can all take some solace in the misery of other teams in the PAC like our in-state rivals, the Mildcats down here in Southern Arizona, who are now win-less in the PAC, thank goodness...

Rich Rod will still collect his millions for also having a complete disaster on his hands, in his fifth year on the job, in the Old Pueblo, and Jim Mora, at UCLA, is still going to collect his millions in LA, despite having what he termed his best team ever at U-cla but the Ruins are 1-4 in the PAC so far...

At least Rich Rod has owned up to the fact that his "own kind of guys" that he recruited initially at AU were not up to the task at hand, while I haven't seen anything from either Graham or Mora confessing to the same sort of past recruiting mistakes...

Then you have someone like Chris Petersen at UDub who also recruits "his kind of guys" at Wash and he is smelling like roses these days in Seattle...

If this was the first year that something like this was happening at ASU that would be one thing but coming on the heels of last season, a losing one after having high expectations, you have to wonder if this is the new normal for ASU under Todd and his staff...

Again, a little melodramatic for effect but then again maybe not if our recruiting doesn't get better...

So, for me at least, it is totally unfathomable that we have been this lousy in Todd's fourth and fifth years at ASU, when you should have your system and players in place and enough of them to overcome some misfortune along the way but we don't...

Some will say wait until next year but I'm not so sure about that if we put another putrid defense on the field in 2017...

G'day Mates and Go Devils!!!

Fighting history ?

Since joining the PAC10/12 ASU has had 13 Seasons of 8 or more wins (38 seasons if my math is correct) they have done it back to back in 4 times 81-82 85-86 96-97 and 2012-2014.

Looking back on posts this is what many expect for ASU football, maybe fans need to accept ASU is in a current down cycle. The best 5 year cycle was 41 wins 78-82.

That could be broken this year. ( The cynic in me would point out the increase in the number of games played)



Did a quick look at U of Washington I think they had 18 seasons of 8 or more

Have an objective take... do not suck!

Your CTG, what three things do you need to do right the ship? Mine are:

1) new DC & approach
2) secure DB recruits --- solid 3 star kids, as too many swing for fence misses have made moving kids around and JC kids that take too much time to develop
3) review S&C program... too many guts, slow and poor energy players... more areas, but that is where I would begin...

Here's what happened when we blitzed

1)72 yd TD to Pharoah Brown
2)Comp to Jalen Brown for 6 yds & 1st down with Moeak covering
3)Complete to Carrington for 5 yards
4)Freeman ran for 8 yards and 1st down
5)Freeman run for no gain
6)Freeman run for 5 yard TFL
7)No pressure on 3rd and 7 and 1 of Herbert's only bad passes overthrowing wide open Carrington for sure TD
8)Complete to Jalen Brown for 23 yards
9)Brooks-Jones run for 17 yards
10)Complete to Pharoah Brown for 2 yds
11)Complete to Mundt for 17 yds
12)Complete to Pharoah Brown 4 yd TD
13)Complete to Nelson 5 yds
14)Incomplete to Crrington
15)Brooks-Jones run for no gain
16)Incomplete, Clhoun with pressure
17)Incomplete to Pharoah Brown thru his hands for sure 1st down with Moeak in loose coverage
18)1 yard run by Freeman
19)53 yard TD to Mundt
20)Brooks -Jones 8 yard TD run
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