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Todd Graham Poll

How much time do you give Todd Graham?

  • He's had enough time, Fire him in the off-season.

    Votes: 4 3.0%
  • One more year tops regardless of changes to staff

    Votes: 15 11.1%
  • A couple more years, IF he hires a new DC.

    Votes: 58 43.0%
  • Give him another 5 years, he's the right HC for ASU

    Votes: 58 43.0%

Just curious where everyone stands with CTG. Don't just vote, please add a comment or two.

Sunday Walkabout

Mornin Mates...

Today's Topic - Honest Questions

Is there an inverse relationship between having spread offenses and also having poor defenses at the same time..??

If you look at the PAC, four of the top five offenses as of last week (not counting yesterday's games) were Cal, Oregon, Wazzu and ASU and on defense Wazzu was #7, Cal was #10, ASU was #11 and Oregon was #12...

Some coaches would say that is because with high octane spread offenses that score a lot, it means that your defense is going to be on the field probably 30% longer than a more traditional offensive approach, which means that the opposing offenses will have more chances to gain yardage and score, and that the defense will be much more fatigued, as the game wears on, which means you better have a lot more quality depth to account for that or else...

Of course, in conference, Wash is both an offensive and defensive leader on both sides of the ball, as they run an up-tempo, spread offense and their defense does not usually struggle in games either...

Why is that...??

Is it because they have better talent particularly on defense and/or a better defensive scheme and/or better defensive coaching and coordination..??

Being from the Talent Is Destiny school of thought, I know that Wash has much better and deeper defensive talent than ASU, Cal, Oregon and Wazzu because, if you look at their defensive line, they are bigger and stronger than the others mentioned and the same goes for the secondary as well...

Folks, bigger is better in all cases, as long as you are not sacrificing speed, which the Huskies have plenty of on both sides of the ball...just compare the Huskies two deep along their DL to ours and then do the same thing in the secondary and you can see tangible differences in terms of size...

The difference, therefore, between ASU and Wash, on defense, is like the difference between night and day and it is that stark a contrast without question, which means it is mostly about the personnel on defense and not the scheme and/or coaching, although Wash may have better defensive coaches but I'm not sure that even Nick Saban, much less Chris Petersen, would have undefeated teams these days with our defensive personnel instead of their own...

Does anyone disagree with that conclusion..??

Now let's look at Wazzu that beat the Cats yesterday 69-7 because, with Falk at QB and with his offensive weapons and OL, that usually allows him plenty of time to pass, the Cougs are in a position to win most games, even though their defense is shaky a good portion of time which, to me at least, kind of mirrors what the Sun Devils were like several years ago when we won the South Conference title...

We had a potent offense like the Cougs and a good enough defense, with a lot of leftover personnel from Erickson, to win 10 games just like the Cougs are going to do this year...

I would also think, even given our pathetic defense, that if we had not lost our starting QB and had as many other key injuries, along the way, that we still well may have been in a position to win 9-10 games by outscoring our opponents, like we did with Texas Tech and Cal, that would have made a world of difference in terms of fan perception regarding the Sun Devils...

For, when you don't have the talent on defense like Wash, you are going to have to outscore opponents in order to win...right..??

Getting back to size for a moment, how do you think players like Chase Lucas, who is listed at 6' 156 pounds and Robbie Robinson, who is listed at 5'8" 172 are going to do in the coming years in our secondary, compared to some of the better DBs in the PAC that have very good size to go along with speed..??

I'm not saying they won't turn out to be good but size does matter some or a lot, even in the secondary, right..??

Anyway, I think it is interesting that a team like Wazzu that has not recruited all that well, as ranked by recruiting services, has pulled ahead of a team like UCLA that has had Top 15 classes in four of the last five years and that Leach, these days, is doing better than the other guys who came into the PAC at the same time like Graham, Mora and Rich Rod...

Is he a better coach and/or does he have a better system and/or does he have better talent..??

All I know is that he has at least four OL that will be drafted into the NFL and they stand 6'5" 295, 6'8" 354, 6'4"330, 6'5" 316 and 6'5" 318 and they give Falk plenty of time to pass most of the time, even though he makes quick reads and releases the ball quickly more often than not...

As always, I'll look forward to your feedback...;)

G'day Mates and Go Devils!!!

Sunday Practice Report 11-6

ATTIRE: Helmets and pads
LOCATION: Kajikawa Practice Fields
MEDIA AVAILABILITY: ~ 15 minutes

EN VERDE: DB James Johnson
ON THE BEACH: LB Christian Sam, LB Salamo Fiso, DB Das Tautalatasi.

ALSO HURT: OL Sam Jones, OL Stephon McCray, WR Cam Smith, OL Zach Robertson, OL Tyson Rising.

INJURED, NOT DRESSED: QB Brady White, QB Bryce Perkins

NOTES: Zach Robertson had his left ankle heavily taped. Das Tautalatasi was getting his groin looked at after being carried off after a drill. Carlos Mendoza had a heavy wrap on his right wrist/hand.

TACKLING

ASU again was working on tackling, with the defensive line focused on wrapping up and driving through the ball.

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TEAM TEMPO

FIRST-TEAM OFFENSE: Manny Wilkins (QB), Demario Richard (RB), N'Keal Harry (WR), Fred Gammage (WR-slot), Jalen Harvey (WR), Kody Kohl (TE), Evan Goodman (LT), Stephon McCray (LG), Tyler McClure (C), Quinn Bailey (RG), Zach Robertson (RT)

FIRST-TEAM DEFENSE: Ami Latu (TIGER), George Lea (NOSE), Tashon Smallwood (END), JoJo Wicker (DEVIL), Koron Crump (SAM), DJ Calhoun (WILL), Laiu Moeakiola (SPUR), Kareem Orr (BC), Maurice Chandler (FC), Marcus Ball (Bandit), Armand Perry (FS)

SECOND-TEAM OFFENSE: Didn't catch all of it, but here are the notables. Dillon Sterling-Cole (QB), Nick Ralston (RB), Ellis Jefferson (WR), Kyle Williams (WR-slot), Terrell Chatman (WR), Raymond Epps (TE), AJ McCollum (C)

SECOND-TEAM DEFENSE: Renell Wren (TIGER), Tramel Topps (NOSE), Corey Smith (END), Edmond Boateng (DEVIL), AJ Latu (WILL), Carlos Mendoza (SAM), Tyler Whiley (SPUR), Gump Hayes (BC), Bryson Echols (FC), J'Marcus Rhodes (Bandit), Chad Adams (FS)\

Notes:
- On the first play from scrimmage, JoJo Wicker flew through and sacked Manny Wilkins, accidentally making contact with the quarterback and drawing the ire of CTG and Co.
- Fred Gammage nearly made a nice touchdown grab, but dropped it.
- Kyle Williams was coming across the middle of the field, and got leveled by AJ Latu.


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As always, let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns. Justin was also out there today.

OT: What are your Conference rankings???

After reviewing the rankings and checking up on the results of a lot of the games this season, I've been surprised with what I have seen. I do not think the SEC is the 1st or even the 2ns best conference this year, and I think the pac is in a bad spot right now. Here are my conference rankings based on what I've gathered this season

1.) Big 10
2.) ACC
3.) SEC
4.) Pac-12
5.) Big 12


I also would go so far as saying that Clemson by far has the best resume in college football (at this moment) with wins over Lousiville, @Auburn, & @Florida State (against a desperate FSU fighting for their playoff lives).

Ranking the 2017 Pac 12 QBs

1)Udub-Browning 2)Wazzu-Falk-if he doesn't enter draft 3)USC-Darnold 4)UCLA-Rosen 5)Stanford-Burns 6)ASU's starter 7)Colorado-Montez 8)Utah-Williams 9)Oregon-Herbert 10)Arizona Dawkins 11)Cal-Gilliam 12)Oregon State-McMarion

USC
Max Browne #1 overall recruit , 5 stars in 2013 (probably transferring out)
Sam Darnold 4 star 2015 recruit. Starter for 4 years?

Udub
Jake Browning 4 star 2015 recruit (3-4 yr starter depending if he enters NFL early)
KJ Carta-Samuels 4 star 2014 recruit

Wazzu
Luke Falk walkon 2014 (3 yr starter depending if he enters NFL early)
Tyler Hilinski 4 star 2015 recruit

Oregon State
Marcus McMarion 3 star 2014 recruit

Oregon
Justin Herbert 3 star 2016 recruit (4 year starter?)

Stanford
Keller Chryst 4 star 2014 recruit
Ryan Burns 4 star 2013 recruit

Cal
Max Gilliam 4 star 2016 recruit
Ross Bowers 3 star 2015 recruit

UCLA
Josh Rosen 5 star 2015 recruit (3 year starter going to NFL early)
Devin Modster 4 star 2016 recruit
AU
Brandon Dawkins 3 star 2014 recruit
Khalil Tate 4 star 2016 recruit

Colorado
Steven Montez 3 star 2015 recruit

Utah
Troy Williams 4 star 2016 Juco transfer
Tyler Huntley 3 star 2016 recruit

ASU
Manny WIlkins 3 star 2014 recruit
Brady White 4 star 2015 recruit
Dillon Sterling Cole 3 star 2016 recruit
Bryce Perkins 3 star 2015 recruit
Ryan Kelley 4 star 2017 recruit
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Guz Malzahn Defensive Coaches Tree

I had posted this elsewhere among the threads - but the more I thought about it - it's actually a good piece of research. I absolutely want to make it clear - I am not saying anything about KP's future - this is more about Coach Graham's comfort zone with new hires and potentially, giving Guz Malzahn a call about his potential recommendations from staff he had hired and moved on. I'd rather not guess on us poaching current Auburn coaches - and Muschamp is not in our budget. Same with Travaris Robinson, the current DC at South Carolina who is already potentially out of our budget ($750k a year) and who I would suspect would put us in a bidding war with USC putting him out of our budget as well.

I said I believed we will not go with someone younger (and I mean coaching experience, not actual age) from the assistant ranks. We did with Chip Lindsey - largely because I think Coach Graham had a lot more "comfort zone" space to work with. Malzahn gave him a good review and he had a pretty impressive record to go with an offense that eearily looked close to what we had with the players that fit.

It isn't quite as easy with assistants from the defensive side. At least to me, I can't see any of these potential Malzahn "approved" type coaches really able to step up to Power division level football at the DC level. Maybe as an additional hire, but certainly not as a hands-off DC calling plays on the sidelines in my opinion - except for one - Lance Thompson.

Guz Malzahn Coaching Tree Available Candidates (Defense)

Not including any active Auburn coaches or Muschamp or Travaris Robinson at South Carolina on this list. Just can't see that happening with Coach Graham being able to realistically get.

Anyone comfortable with an FCS DC? Brandon Hall, Jacksonvillle State DC http://www.jsugamecocksports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=530

Al Pogue, Troy CBs Coach http://www.troytrojans.com/coaches.aspx?path=football&rc=821

(I would take this guy off the list, he was more along the lines of "inherited" by Malzahn then hired. Just including for information.) Phillip Lolley, Edmonton CFL LB Coach http://www.esks.com/profile-phillip-lolley/

Kenny Ingram, Cinncinati DB Coach http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kenny_ingram_950538.html

The only guy I think may have a shot at DC coming off the Malzahn coaching tree is Lance Thompson DL Coach/Asst Coach from South Carolina. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/lance_thompson_996950.html

What's worth watching is Lance Thompson. He wanted and would have stayed at Auburn with Malzahn had he been chosen to succeed Muschamp and said it. He joined both Muschamp and Travaris Robinson to South Carolina - I'd love Robinson but he's untouchable - he's an elite recruiter and makes $750k a year.

Lance Thompson currently is at $500k a year and his contract runs throung 2017 which should be no big deal. But most importantly, he wants to be a DC for a Power conference team it seems. Would $600k over 3 years suffice? Or $650k? I give us a 50% chance at that range - guy also seems confortable in the SEC as well. But, the guy has LITTLE experience as an actual DC - and do we do this? Give a guy total control with no experience? Probably not in my own personal opinion.

Salary information http://www.thestate.com/sports/coll...th-carolina/usc-football/article61330907.html

Does anyone like any of these guys?

I don't know if that salary range is possible but if not - we're probably looking for an NFL assistant or advisor then.

In state DB recruiting question

for all the talk about DB recruiting and in state recruiting, there is one thing that hasn't really been talked about. There are currently two safeties from AZ starting in the Pac-12. We did offer Zack Hoffpauir but he chose Stanford. At the time I didn't think he was fast enough to play in the Pac but he has been a multi-year starter. One thing for sure, he is a hitter in the old school mold. He would not miss as many tackles as some of our safeties. The other is Luke Rubenzer whom I think wanted to come here but we didn't offer. At the time, I thought that was a huge mistake. Then we signed Coltin Gerhardt and it felt like maybe we did ok. Now Rubenzer is starting at safety for Cal and Gerhardt isn't anywhere close to seeing the field. I think Rubenzer could be playing safety or QB for us now. Many people don't subscribe to the idea that if you have two similar prospects and one is from AZ, you give the AZ recruit the nod. In this case, that should have definately happened.

So the question is, how different would our secondary be if we had one of those guys? I think both of them are better tacklers than Perry. They probably aren't as good in coverage but I have seen them both play well in coverage this year. For sure they are better than who has been playing behind Perry. My opinion is that we would be significantly better playing either one of those guys over Adams, Rhodes and probably Perry. Only pause I have is if they would not be better suited in Ball's spot. What do you think?

Huskies Left Out

Cowherd had no problem with Wash being left out of the initial playoff top four because their schedule has not been good and teams like Oregon and Stanford are not very good this year...he liked both TAMU and Ohio St as better picks and talked about A&M's schedule vs the Huskies but he didn't mention that in the SEC, they only play 8 conference games vs 9 for the PAC and that the Aggies have Prairie View, NM State (last weekend) and UTSA coming up on Nov 19th before closing the season against LSU, which means the Aggies have had three Bye weeks, one in Sept, one in Oct and one in Nov...how fair and good is that..??

Are the Huskies and the PAC being slighted by this type of rationale..??

Go Devils!!!
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