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Thursday Practice Report 8/18

Weather happened today! It was a light drizzle in Tempe, so it was a little cooler when the team practiced outside (not nearly enough rain for danger)

Here's today's report:

ATTIRE: Helmets and pads
LOCATION: Kajikawa Practice Field
MEDIA AVAILABILITY: ~ 30 minutes
GUESTS: Scouts were in attendance from the Indianapolis Colts and Atlanta Falcons

TILLMAN JERSEY: None
EN VERDE: WR Jalen Harvey, LB Khaylan Thomas, DB Maurice Chandler, OL Tyson Rising, OL Marshal Nathe, LS Mitchell Fraboni, FB "Goose" Cosgrove (not expected back anytime soon; suffered what appeared to be a vicious knee injury in the "W" drill yesterday)
EN VERDE, PARTICIPANDO: WR Jalen Harvey, DB Maurice Chandler
ABSENT (or I didn't see him): LB Salamo Fiso
OUT OF GREEN: DB James Johnson, who was sporting a right knee brace
OTHER INJURY NEWS: QB Bryce Perkins was at practice, sporting a neck brace

SOMETHING NEW:

The first session of practice is always attached to takeaways, and it seems like the "Scoop and Score" drills have been a part of just about every session. Here's the difference today -- the offense and defense switched fields. It was admittedly a little jarring seeing Kalen Ballage working with DL coach Joe Seumalo, and the O-lineman looked quite awkward punching the ball out and recovering the loose ball.

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TWO-MINUTE DRILL:

FIRST-TEAM OFFENSE: Manny Wilkins (QB), Demario Richard (RB), Cam Smith (WR), Ellis Jefferson (WR), Tim White (WR - slot), Raymond Epps (TE), Evan Goodman (LT), Sam Jones (LG), Stephon McCray (C), Quinn Bailey (RG), Zach Robertson (RT)

FIRST-TEAM DEFENSE: Tashon Smallwood (TIGER), Corey Smith/Ami Latu (NOSE), Rennell Wren (END), JoJo Wicker (DEVIL), DJ Calhoun (WILL), Christian Sam (SPUR), Kareem Orr (BC), Tyler Whiley (NC), Gump Hayes (FC), J'Marcus Rhodes (BS), Chad Adams (FS)

* Koron Crump also worked at SPUR, moving Christian Sam to SAM and taking Whiley off the field.

The drive lasted four plays, which went as follows:
- Wilkins completion to Cam Smith
- Wilkins incomplete
- Wilkins run for minimal gain
- Wilkins screen to Richard (three-four yards short of a first down)

Some notes from Saturday's Elite Camp (and on basketball recruiting in general)

Saturday was my first time in the Weatherup center. I had been repeatedly told by Hod and others that it was nice, and now I know just how nice. Assistant Rashon Burno was in the mini-theatre watching film in between chatting up unofficial visitors- and Gregg Rosenberg (basketball analyst and top west coast scout for me over at ArizonaVarsity) introduced me to Burno and gave me some background on his playing career. Never realized how accomplished the guy was.

Anthony Coleman seems to be ingratiated into the program quite well already. This might be his first coaching gig, but it definitely shows that he's spent tons of time within the grassroots community. He's easy going, personable, knowledgeable, and usually the tallest guy in the room- including the recruits.

Quite a few of the guys I cover at the high school level locally were there. Many have no shot at getting a look from ASU, but a few of the younger guys are worth keeping track of.

Locally- there's no one from the class of 2017 ASU is interested in, but the 2018 class is interesting.

They've offered 3-star F KJ Hymes of St. Mary's, who was at one time ranked by Eric Bossi as one of the top 50 prospects in the country. After seeing him a few more times, Bossi's opinion has come back down to earth (a little). He's at #63 now. I've always felt bad for Hymes, because locally, there's been a lot of animosity toward him based off his national ranking from Rivals. Gregg Rosenberg has him ranked as the #3 local prospect for his class, which is probably more fair. He has a soft touch, draws contact and hits free throws, but often just doesn't look to be using his heigh to his advantage. Hymes was not at ASU's elite camp on Saturday, but Rosenberg's #1 and #2 players were- Tevian Jones of Chandler High, and Timmy Allen of Desert Ridge. ASU has yet to offer Jones, but I'd be surprised if they didn;t eventually come in. Jones has offers from USC and UNLV, and was under some pretty intense scrutiny on Saturday. He didn't do much to stand out- but if Gregg has him at #1, I trust his judgement. Timmy Allen is a miniature Blake Griffin who will need to learn the intricacies of the SF position and become a better shooter since he's likely stopped growing at 6-5. Since shedding some baby fat, his athleticism is showing even more, and because of the lack of a strength/size combination in the Arizona high school landscape, I think he'll dominate this year. Allen played out of his mind on Saturday when there was a capable pint guard on the floor with him- defensively, he showed an ability to guard the perimeter.

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The local class of 2019 includes Majok Deng, who Rosenberg has rated at #1. He started the day off a little rough, committing fouls on defense and struggling to get on the same page with his teammates- but when he settled down, the 6-5 wing showed his range and fluid shooting motion, hitting 6 threes in a matter of 15 minutes. He also showed an ability to get to the basket, play in transition, and play active perimeter defense. Gregg told me the way he went off like that would lead to him getting an offer after the day was over, and he was right. Deng was offered right after the camp.

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The other standout from the class is Jovan Blackshear. Gregg says that if he's just going on current skill, he's probably the best sophomore in the state. Compton Magic was in the house trying to pry the kid away from Marvin Bagley's Phoenix Phamily club team. The issue with Jovan is that at 5-9, he might be done growing (but his dad is 6-1 or 6-2), and he doesn;t have Nate Robinson level athleticism. He has incredible ball skills, instincts, passing ability and defensive awareness, and was probably the best player in the gym on Saturday- but the fear is that's as good as he'll ever be. His teammate at Shadow Mountain, however, is Eddie House's son, Jaelen House.

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Jaelen can do something not a lot of others can- he can create his own shot- just like his dad. He's one to watch in this class. Rosenberg has him rated #5, one spot ahead of Blackshear.

Class of 2020 already has some clear standouts, like Nico Mannion, who has an ASU offer, and will play for Pinnacle. The consensus on Saturday was that this kid's awareness and natural ability are off the charts. It's absurd to think he has four years before he'll set foot on a college campus. I'm trying to think of someone to compare him to, but it's difficult. I'd have to be absurdly critical to find a whole in his game at this age.

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Greg also likes a 2020 prospect named Evan Nelson (Marana Mountain View). He held his own on the floor Saturday- didn't do anything spectacular, but it was obvious that he belonged.

We also got to watch about 2/3rds of the current team work out. Here are my notes:

Sam Cunliffe is explosive. He's a highlight reel dunker, and he'll create his own space with his cutting ability. On nights where his shot is on, you;ll see something special. He tired out a bit later in the session, and considering he was drenched in sweat when everyone arrived at 2pm, I'm not surprised. Looks like he had been there a while on his own.

Andre Adams looks like a true college center. He told Rosenberg he'd be ready for the season, which after 2 ACL tears, seems a tad ambitious. I believe he'll be a 20 year old redshirt freshman.

Jethro Tsihumpa is long. Look at him next to Maurice O'Field in this picture, who he's only a few inches inches taller than.

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Shannon Evans seems hungry to get on the court after a long break (and a successful run at Buffalo). It'll be interesting to see how he fits with Tre Holder, but as a scoring guard, it shouldn't be that complicated.

Torian Graham is a freak. The way he attacks the rim is violent. He was easily the most athletic guy in the gym. If he can earn some playing time after effectively being kicked off the team, he might be the X-factor the Sun Devils need to bring Cunliff along slowly and not depend on him to be a star right away.

Kodi Justice is Kodi Justice. The guy is comfortable with anyone. He'll be a major key off the bench, as always.

Not in attendance: Obi Oleka, Tre Holder, Romello White.

In attendance, but not participating: Adams, Vitaly Shibel (left knee procedure), Ramon Vila (no habla ingles)

By now you've read that 2017 targets Garrison Brooks, Alex Reece and Jordan Usher were visiting. They didn't observe much of the camp, and were talking to coaches and touring the facilities. They did not participate in the action. Kimani Lawrence, however, watched everything very intently. He's a 6-6, 4-star wing who will take an official visit on 9/23 with the other three guys. He visited USC the next day, and seems to have an interest in playing on the west coast. 6-7 F Tyler Bey was also in attendance. I did not see or talk to him during my observations.

On the court, a few priority out of state recruits stood out.

Josh Carlton's size was impressive. He looked a little disengaged and lost in the free-flowing 5-on-5 play, but down on the block he's got skills. A Danny Fortson-type.

Isaiah Mobley, a 6-7 sophomore who moves well, but didn't necessarily capitalize on his opportunities on offense, is someone to watch. Defensively, he's long, and kept several rebounds in play.

I don;t know if they want to be his first offer, but David Singleton is someone I believe ASU will eventually come in on. The 2018 guard has so much confidence with the ball. He's very competitive, and a little flashy. At 6-4, he looks like he could function as a large point guard, but could serve as a combo guard if needed.

4-star PG Jules Bernard is under-recruited. I'll tell you right now, his toughness and aggression for a 2-guard is a commodity you can build a winner around. At 6-5, he had one of the best verticals of any player there, and he loved to get his. He has the frame, and the game, that reminds me of Harden before Harden's added deep range.

Wednesday practice report

Location: Kajikawa practice fields
Attire: Pads
Media availability: 21 minutes
Guests: none that I saw
Tillman Jersey: none (Tim White was back in the maroon #12)
En Verde (No contact): OL Marshal Nathe, OL Tyson Rising, DB Maurice Chandler, WR Jalen Harvey, LB Marcus Ball, LB Khaylan Thomas, LS Mitchell Fraboni,
En Verde Participando: (Limited): WR Jalen Harvey, DB Maurice Chandler
Out of green: LB Salamo Fiso, DB James Johnson

Takeaway drill: Emphasis continues to be placed on turnovers and has been something the Sun Devils have worked on every day of camp.

Today included a drill where the defender would shed a block, force a fumble and recover it along with the standard scoop-and-score and tackling drills.

Team (11-on-0 offense only):

First team: QB Brady White, RB Demario Richard, RB Kalen Ballage, WR N'Keal Harry, WR Tim White, WR Cam Smith, LT Evan Goodman, LG Sam Jones, C Stephon McCray, RG Quinn Bailey, RT Zach Robertson.

Second team: QB Manny Wilkins, RB Jason Lewis, WR Jalen Harvey, WR Fred Gammage, WR Ellis Jefferson, LT Steve Miller, LG Alex Losoya, C A.J. McCollum, RG Cohl Cabral, RT Zach Robertson.

Notes: A different look on the first team today as freshman WR N'Keal Harry made an appearance on the first team on the outside. We would like to see him versus the first-team defense but that wasn't in the cards today.

Redshirt freshman QB Brady White took first-team snaps for the second day in a row while redshirt sophomore QB Manny Wilkins ran with the second team.

Two days is hardly a pattern to say a quarterback is emerging - they're probably just going for an even number of reps for both QBs - but it's definitely worth monitoring.

As for anything else, it's hard to glean much from an 11-on-0 period but White looked comfortable moving in the tempo of the offense.

The 'W' Drill:

The offense lined up across from the defense for the W drill today. It was pretty even with the offense scoring a few times and the defense forcing some good stops, notably from junior DL Koron Crump and junior LB DJ Calhoun.

I happened to catch Harry block a DB (I believe it was redshirt senior Eric Lauderdale) and Harry did a good job, blocking him outside and eventually tossing him to the ground.

Tuesday Practice Report: 8/16

ATTIRE: Shells
LOCATION: Kajikawa Practice Fields
MEDIA AVAILABILITY: About 35 minutes
GUESTS: I saw a scout from the Philadelphia Eagles
TILLMAN JERSEY: Tim White
EN VERDE (No contact): OL Marshal Nathe, OL Tyson Rising, DB Maurice Chandler, WR Jalen Harvey, LB Marcus Ball, LB Khaylan Thomas, LB Salamo Fiso (Wasn't dressed), LS Mitchell Fraboni, DB James Johnson (worked out in the dome)
EN VERDE PARTICIPANDO (Limited): WR Jalen Harvey, DB Maurice Chandler
OUT OF GREEN: LB Carlos Mendoza

TAKEAWAY DRILLS: ASU did the standard takeaway drills after stretches. The scoop and score drill was included.

TEAM (Offense vs. Defense, 2-minute drill:

First-team offense: QB Brady White, RB Demario Richard, WR Tim White (slot)/Ellis Jefferson/Cam Smith, TE Kody Kohl, LT Evan Goodman, LG Sam Jones, C Stephon McCray, RG Quinn Bailey, RT Zach Robertson

Second-team offense: QB Manny Wilkins, RB Kalen Ballage, WR N'Keal Harry/Fred Gammage (slot)/Jalen Harvey, TE Raymond Epps, LT Steve Miller, LG Alex Losoya, C A.J. McCollum, RG Cohl Cabral, RT Zach Robertson

First-team defense:JoJo Wicker (DEVIL), George Lea (DT), Tashon Smallwood (DT), LBs Christian Sam/Koron Crump/D.J. Calhoun, Maurice Chandler (nickel), Bryson Echols (field corner), Kareem Orr (boundary corner), J'Marcus Rhodes( field safety), Chad Adams (bandit safety)

Second-team defense: George Lea, Tramel Topps, Renell Wren, LBs Malik Lawal/Deion Guinard/A.J. Latu, Robbie Robinson (field corner), Chase Lucas (boundary corner), Armand Perry (field safety), Eric Lauderdale (bandit safety)

Notes: Both offenses were eventually faced with one "winner take all" play, and each scored. Tim White caught a pass in the air in between coverage in the end zone for the first time. While it was good concentration, it seemed to be poor coverage as none of the defensive backs made a play on the ball in the air, making it relatively easy for White.

The second team used a little fade route to score. Jalen Harvey boxed out Robbie Robinson for an easy touchdown. For as good as Robinson has been in coverage in other areas of the field, he didn't appear to have much of a chance there on the goal line.

The H Drill: ASU ran the H drill today. Due to where the media stands in the outside fields compared to the dome, we were able to get a good look at it. Kareem Orr and Armand Perry each made stellar plays to shed a block and make the tackle on the ball carrier. Additionally, the defense forced one takeaway— Chase Lucas forced a fumble.

Basketball Prospect Kimani Lawrence on his ASU Visit

I talked to the small forward was among an impressive list of 2017 prospects who were in Tempe this past weekend, and at no. 46 was the highest rated prospect who visited ASU on Saturday.

I exchanged texts with him to discuss his visit and recruiting process with the Sun Devils.

On his visit to ASU:

“I enjoyed the campus really liked the facilities and the relationships I established with everyone on staff even the managers. Biggest surprise was just how cool everyone was with each other, and how everyone seemed to be close with each other on the staff.”

How do the coaches see his role if he were to sign with ASU?


“They like how versatile I am and think I could make a big impact from day 1, they think they could really help develop my skill set and help me excel in the Pac-12.”

On his impressions of having so many high caliber recruits on campus at the same time

“They got some good guys coming in and the recruits were cool so I like the type of guys they're looking for to help their program.”

What does he like about ASU’s recruiting style?


“I like the attention being shown and it shows how much they really want me to be a part of their program.”

Lawrence said that he hasn’t set any dates for official visits (although ASU could get a visit on Sep. 23rd). USC, Texas and Pittsburgh are likely visit destinations.

When it’s time for you to choose a school what are the main aspects you will consider?

“The biggest things would be the relationship with the head coach and staff, the type of guys that are on the team and they are recruiting, playing time, how they'll utilize me, and how they'll help me get to the next level.”

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Monday Practice Report 8-15

LOCATION: Kajikawa Practice Fields
ATTIRE: Helmets and pads
MEDIA AVAILABILITY: ~ 35 minutes
GUESTS: Scouts from the Seattle Seahawks and Miami Dolphins (insert "Ballers" joke here) were in attendance, as well as former ASU safety Jordan Simone

TILLMAN JERSEY: WR Tim White

EN VERDE (no contact): WR Jalen Harvey, OL Marshal Nathe, OL Tyson Rising, RB Kalen Ballage, LB Salamo Fiso, DB James Johnson, DB Dasmond Tautalatasi, LB Khaylan Thomas, LS Mitchell Fraboni, DB Maurice Chandler, LB Carlos Mendoza

EN VERDE, PARTICIPANDO (limited): WR Jalen Harvey, RB Kalen Ballage, LB Salamo Fiso, DB James Johnson, DB Maurice Chandler

OUT OF GREEN: OL AJ McCollum

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SESSION A - TAKEAWAY:

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Notes: ASU has been big on takeaways this fall camp, notably "Scoop and Score" drills. Part of the rewards part of this with defensive linemen is the last player to score will do up-downs. Today, that player was Tashon Smallwood.

SESSION B - TEAM (NO DEFENSE):

FIRST-TEAM OFFENSE: Manny Wilkins (QB), Demario Richard (RB), Ellis Jefferson (WR), Tim White (WR), Cam Smith (WR), Kody Kohl (TE), Evan Goodman (LT), Sam Jones (LG), Stephon McCray (C), Quinn Bailey (RG), Zach Robertson (RT)

SECOND-TEAM OFFENSE: Brady White (QB), Jacom Brimhall (RB), N'Keal Harry (WR), Jalen Harvey (WR), Fred Gammage (WR), Raymond Epps (TE), Steven Miller (LT), Connor Humphreys (LG), Cohl Cabral (C), Cade Cote (RG), Mason Walter (RT)

SESSION C - SPECIAL TEAMS

Notes: No pressure involved, but Matt Haack continues to be great at this punting thing....Guys rotating in for returns are Tim White, Gump Hayes, Kyle Williams and John Humphrey

As always, let me know if there are any questions.

Hod-What's your take on WR's?

Obviously it does not benefit the team if CTG were to provide the public (and ultimately his competition) with the team injury report. There is no PUP list or any requirement by the NCAA to supply the masses with this desired info
That said, it was somewhat surprising to me that Cam Smith was not with the 1's on day one of Fall camp. While it would make sense to bring him along slowly, I thought that is what they were doing in the Spring. It seems to me that many top level athletes are able to regain most/all of their speed after rehabilitation from a serious knee surgery as Cam had. However the commonly lingering issue is with cutting ability and stop-n-go pressure.
Griz said something about Bryce Perkins beating Cam in a sprint (I don't think it was a race and I don't necessarily think it was a hotly contested matchup but more of just another wind sprint). Nevertheless it raised eyebrows on on both sides (for Perkins and his obvious speed for his size/position and for Cam to be beat by a QB).
So my long-story-long question is, where do you see Cam Smith in his process of returning to full health and full ability to improve on where he left off in 2014?
Secondly regarding Jalen Harvey, where do you see him in his progress? I know that he has been with the 1's nearly every practice and is trying to secure that spot. I was very impressed with him at the end of last season and in the Spring. This new injury requiring a walking boot, regardless of how minor, will inevitably set him back somewhat when he is trying to lock down a starting spot from some serious competition. Was he performing at a high enough level to be able to take a week off and maintain his spot with the 1's?
Ellis Jefferson is a stud Sun Devil. He is not a great WR, at least not yet. I really feel that other than White (and Cam in previous seasons), no WR on the team has been given as many opportunities to land a starting role as Jefferson and yet he always seems to let it slip away. My opinion has been that he is still somewhat of a baby giraffe athletically and his hands are not great. (it actually appears that his feet get tangled up first, causing his hand-eye coordination to falter). I think that EJ will be extremely valuable if Cam/Harvey/Harry/White were to be injured and unable to perform at their peak ability. I also feel that EJ will be very valuable in 2017. His size is highly desirable and undoubtedly largely contributing the unusually long looks he gets with the 1's.
Finally, I think I read/heard that N'Keal Harry had a slight injury was well. Is that accurate? If so, any update? I am convinced that he is already our 3rd-4th best option at WR and depending upon your answers to the questions above, he may be well worth the risk of giving him time with the 1's while he is still learning the playbook and perfecting everything that Norvell is filling him with. If Gump can have "a package" with the offense, then Harry can handle the entire playbook, now.

Update on Doug Subtyl

I know how much everyone is anxiously waiting for this news, so here is the latest:

A source informed me that Subtyl did pass all of his summer school classes and did earn his AA degree. The grades and transcripts have been turned in to evaluate whether he is now qualified academically or not. Right now it's still a 50-50 proposition.

There's little chance we will know anything before next week. The only question is whether an answer on the qualification will be rendered before the team leaves for Camp T Tuesday afternoon not. So there is a chance that Subtyl could get an answer while Camp T is underway. If he did qualify he'll probably join the team up there, but it depends on the timing of everything too.
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